A Study on “Edification” at the LDS October 2022 Conference
In General Conference
there is much “edification” that goes on. Repeated quoting of RMN and other
leaders, glowing praise, effusive attestations of authority. Apologists will be
quick to say “They’re merely sharing their testimonies”. Well, ok…I guess that’s
possible. It is possible that there are speakers who believe that Russell
Nelson and his inner circle are prophets, seers, and revelators so strongly that
they want everyone to know it. Shouldn’t there be a point at which one truthfully
concedes though that “I’m hearing it SO much that it’s obviously contrived”. I
think there should.
Why would they do that
you ask? Well, to do just like in my example…to establish the current president
and his cohorts as THE “authorities” that must be followed.
Many conversations are
taking place nowadays pointing a finger at the church saying “”Follow the
prophet” has gotten out of hand! While there are times to follow a prophet,
like on an end times exodus, as a rule the scriptures tell us to follow Christ,
the Holy Ghost, and scripture. There is too much emphasis on putting trust in
man”!
In response apologists
say “President Nelson doesn’t say to follow him…he says to follow Christ!!” While
there are quotes out there that could be shown that he has said to follow him…generally
this is true. He generally does point to Christ! But what about everyone else
in his crew?!! Do the apostles, seventy, auxiliary leaders also speak of following
Christ or do they emphasize President Nelson. The answer is generally…both.
When they mention Christ…RMN isn’t far behind or vice versa.
I wanted to make a
point. I went through the entire conference and picked out the “edification”
primarily with living church leadership. You’ll find this breakdown below. Here
are some of my findings.
1.
Out of the
total of 35 talks, there were 37 Russell Nelson quotes.
2.
Out of the
10 prayers in conference, all 10 “edified” speaking of gratitude for prophets,
seers, revelators, Russell Nelson, the Twelve, and so forth.
3.
The ONLY
talks out of 35 talks that contained NO edification
were by David Bednar, Paul Johnson, and Russell Nelson. (Apparently it only
goes up and not down)
Here are my notes…
Saturday Morning
Session
Opening Prayer – “under
direction of prophets seers and revelators.
1st speaker –
Dallin Oaks –
1.
“Beloved
President Nelson”
2nd speaker –
Dieter Uchtdorf –
1.
“The Lord,
through His prophets, has always been guiding us in that direction.”
2.
Quotes RMN
3.
self-edification
of authority “Of this I bear my solemn witness as an Apostle of the Lord Jesus
Christ…”
3rd speaker –
Tracy Browning –
1. “to hear messages from prophets, apostles, seers,
revelators, and leaders in God’s kingdom. We figuratively become like the
people of King Benjamin’s day, pitching our tents and having our doors open and
directed toward God’s prophet on the earth,1 President Russell M. Nelson.”
2. “The words and teachings of Jesus Christ as
recorded in scripture and messages from His chosen prophets”.
3. “Our dear prophet has taught that…”. Quotes
RMN
4. Quotes RMN again
5. Quotes Russell Ballard.
6. “…why I believe in and incorporate the teachings
of modern-day prophets and apostles into my life;…”
7. “…to the scriptures and teachings of prophets to
learn of His words.”
4th speaker – Dale Renlund
1.
Quotes Robert Hales
2.
“Doctrine,
commandments, and revelations for the Church are the prerogative of the living
prophet, who receives them from the Lord Jesus Christ.17 That is the prophet’s runway.”
3.
“I invite
you to have the confidence to claim personal revelation for yourself,
understanding what God has revealed, consistent with the scriptures and the
commandments He has given through His appointed prophets and within your own
purview and agency.”
5th speaker – Rafael Pino
1.
Quotes RMN
2.
Quotes RMN a second time
3.
“I testify
of the 15 men whom we sustain as prophets, seers, and revelators, including our
beloved prophet, President Russell M. Nelson.”
6th speaker – Hugo Montoya
1.
Quotes RMN
2.
Quotes RMN a second time
3.
“He has
been sending messengers for years and years so that we can receive His love and
His commandments.” (This is true…but ambiguous and appears to be a nod
to leadership)
7th speaker – Ronald Rasband
1.
““This
day,” one of the greatest missionaries of the Book of Mormon is President
Russell M. Nelson.” “Following President Nelson’s remarks, he was
approached by that king, who asked in perfect English, “Just who are you?”
President Nelson explained that he was an ordained Apostle of Jesus Christ.”
Not sure how this would be split. It’s one long story praising RMN.
2.
“That is
not an isolated example of how our beloved prophet shares the Book of Mormon.”
Second talk to call RMN “beloved”. Who else in scripture was called “Beloved”?
3.
Quotes RMN
4.
“Our living
prophet is doing his part to flood the earth with the Book of Mormon.20 But he cannot open the floodgates alone. We must follow
his lead.”
5.
Self-edification
sharing how he has shared scripture with heads of countries.
6.
“My dear
friends, as an Apostle of the Lord, I invite you to follow our beloved prophet,
President Nelson, in flooding the earth with the Book of Mormon.” Second
invitation to “Follow the prophet”.
8th Speaker – Russell Nelson - The previous speaker
gave a big crescendo of praise to bring on the final act! I see nothing in his
talk that could be construed as edification of himself or other leaders.
Closing Prayer – “We are grateful for our living prophet, President
Nelson and his counselors and the members of the 12 apostles…”
Saturday Afternoon Session
Opening Prayer – “Grateful for the opportunity to hear the
words of our prophets seers and revelators”
Sustaining of General Authorities – Henry Eyring
1.
Sustaining of RMN not just as president…but as a
prophet seer and revelator
2.
Sustaining of apostles also as prophets seers and
revelators. These are gifts that are received…not ecclesiastical positions to sustain.
Speaker 1 - Russell
Ballard
1.
Quotes RMN
2.
“President
Nelson has been a pioneer in the Church. As an Apostle he has traveled to and
opened many lands for the preaching of the gospel. Shortly after becoming the
prophet and President of the Church, he pled with us to “increase [our]
spiritual capacity to receive revelation.””
3.
Quotes
RMN again
4.
Quotes
RMN at third time
5.
“I testify that President Russell M. Nelson
is the prophet of God on the earth today.”
Speaker 2 – Kristin Yee –
1.
Quotes RMN
Speaker 3 – Paul Johnson -
He apparently didn’t get the memo. There was no edification in his talk!
He may not be invited back.
Speaker 4 – Ulisses Soares
1.
“They also
help them face the spiritual dangers of our day by nurturing them with the good
word of the Lord as revealed to His prophets.”
Speaker 5 – James McConkie III
1.
Quotes Joseph Wirthlin
2.
Quotes Joseph Wirthlin again
Speaker 6 – Jorge Zeballos
1.
“Over the
years from this beautiful pulpit at the Conference Center, we have received
magnificent counsel, inspiration, instruction, and revelation.” Makes
reference to Uchtdorf and RMN talks.
Speaker 7 – Todd Christofferson
1.
“The Church
is the custodian of the covenants of salvation and exaltation that God offers
us through the ordinances of the holy priesthood.15 It is by keeping these covenants that we obtain the
highest and deepest sense of belonging.” Indirect edification
2.
Quotes RMN
Closing Prayer – “Grateful to have been able to hear from thy
servants”. “Blessing on our prophet RMN and members of the first presidency and
quorum of the 12…”
Saturday Evening Session
Opening Prayer – “That we have a living prophet today.”
Speaker 1 Gérald Caussé
1.
Quotes RMN
2.
Quotes not to long ago deceased Thomas Monson
Speaker 2 – Michelle Craig
1.
Quotes Joseph F Smith. The focus of this is on
edification of current leadership. Added for interest.
2.
“I choose
to stand with His chosen servants—President Russell M. Nelson and his
fellow Apostles—for they speak for Him and are the stewards of the ordinances
and covenants that tie me to the Savior.”
Speaker 3 – Kevin Pearson
1.
“We could
also choose to change our daily news feed to the words of Christ in the holy
scriptures and to prophetic words of His living prophets.”
2.
Quotes RMN
3.
“Are we
still willing to follow the living prophets?”
Speaker 4 – Denelson Silva
1.
Quotes Dieter Uchtdorf
2.
Quotes RMN
3.
In the above quote calls him “Our Beloved Prophet”
4.
“We have a
living prophet,…”
Speaker 5 – Neil Andersen
1.
Quotes Henry Eyring
2.
“May this
blessing be ours as we listen closely to the words of the Lord through His
prophets and others in this conference.”
3.
Quotes RMN
4.
Quotes RMN
again
5.
“Can we see
why the Lord would direct His prophet to bring the holy temples closer to us
and allow us to be in His house more often?”
6.
Mentions
Russell Ballard and Kevin Pearson both quoting RMN and quotes RMN a third time!
7.
Quotes
Dallin Oaks
8.
Quotes RMN
a 4th time!!!!
Closing Prayer – “We thank thee for our living prophet, the
first presidency, and the quorum of the 12”
Sunday Morning Session
Opening Prayer – “We thank the for our living prophet for whom
we pray.”
Speaker 1 – Jeffrey Holland
1.
“I note two
pieces of art8 that serve as backdrops for the First Presidency and
Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in their sacred weekly temple meetings each
Thursday in Salt Lake City. These portrayals serve as constant reminders to us
of the price that was paid and the victory that was won by Him whose servants
we are.”
2.
Quotes Gordon
Hinckley
3.
“This day I
bear apostolic witness of Him…” self-edification of authority.
Speaker 2 – Anette Dennis
1.
Quotes Joseph Wirthlin
2.
Quotes Gary Stevenson
3.
Quotes RMN
4.
Quotes RMN again
Speaker 3 – Gerrit Gong
1.
“In a
remarkable way, the Lord’s prophet is drawing us closer to our Savior,
including through sacred temple ordinances and covenants coming closer to us in
more places.”
2.
“The Lord’s
prophet is leading the way. Latter-day revelation continues.”
Speaker 4 – Joseph Sitati
1.
Quotes RMN
2.
“This
resonates with the pattern of consecrated service in the kingdom of God that is
set before us by the Lord’s living prophets and apostles.”
3.
“Like the
Lord’s living prophets and apostles, we can go forth with “bowels … full of
charity towards all men, and to the household of faith, [with] virtue
[garnishing our] thoughts unceasingly; … [and our] confidence [waxing] strong
in the presence of God; and the doctrine of the priesthood … [distilling] upon
[our souls] as the dews from heaven.””
4.
“With the
Lord’s living prophets and apostles, we too can join a virtuous circle of faith
strengthened by consecrated service in which “the Holy Ghost [is our] constant
companion, [our] scepter [is] an unchanging scepter of righteousness and truth;
and [our] dominion [is] an everlasting dominion, and without compulsory means
it [flows] unto [us] forever and ever.””
Speaker 5 – Steven Lund
1.
Quotes RMN saying “Hear Him”
2.
“And they
follow a living prophet, President Russell M. Nelson, who leads with the
knowing optimism of a seer in proclaiming that the great endeavor of these
times—the gathering of Israel—will be both grand and majestic…”
Speaker 6 – David Bednar. None! A scripture based talk!
Speaker 7 – Russell Nelson
1.
“With the
power of the holy apostleship vested in me, I bless you in your quest to
overcome this world.” Statement of self-proclaimed authority. (There was
also a Ezra Benson Quote…but he’s long dead)
Closing Prayer – “Father we are so grateful for a prophet. A living
prophet we rejoice in his message.”
Sunday Afternoon Session
Opening Prayer – “We are grateful for our prophets…and the sacrifices
they make on our behalf” “To do as our prophet has asked them to do today…”
Speaker 1 – Henry Eyring
1.
“President
Russell M. Nelson is the living prophet of God for all the earth.”
Speaker 2 – Ryan Olsen
1.
Quotes Henry Eyring
2.
Quotes RMN
3.
Quotes Howard Hunter
4.
Quotes RMN again
5.
Quotes RMN a third time
6.
“Everything
that President Nelson lovingly encourages us to do will lead us closer to the
Savior.”
Speaker 3 – Jonathan Schmitt
1.
Quotes RMN. Shares his good example of scripture
study.
Speaker 4 – Mark Eddy
1.
Quotes RMN
2.
Quotes RMN again
3.
Quotes David Bednar
4.
“Ultimately,
the virtue of the word of God is the Lord Jesus Christ.21 As we comprehend this more fully, we can make an
eternally significant connection between the role of His prophets and the
Redeemer Himself. Our love for Him, our desire to draw closer to Him and to
abide in His love,22 will motivate us to try the virtue of the word in our
lives—both the virtue that flows from Him as our personal Savior and Redeemer23 and the virtue that flows from Him through the words of
“the chosen vessels of the Lord.”24 We will come to discern that, as helpful as other
sources may be in our study of the Savior and the words of His prophets, they
must never become a replacement for them. We must drink deeply and often25 directly from the source.26”
5.
Quotes RMN a third time
6.
“I know
that His virtue flows through the words of His prophets, both past and present.”
Speaker 5 – Gary Stevenson
1.
Quotes Dallin Oaks
2.
“Each
beloved member of the First Presidency has provided us with direction on how to
keep a testimony.” Yet another reference to calling top tier leadership “Beloved”.
3.
Quotes
Henry Eyring
4.
Quotes
Dallin Oaks
5.
Quotes RMN
6.
“…and The
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is God’s Church on the earth today
led by our dear prophet, President Russell M. Nelson.”
Speaker 6 – Isaac Morrison
1.
Quotes RMN
Speaker 7 – Quentin Cook
1.
Shares story dropping the names of Jeffrey Holland
and Russell Ballard. Then says “President Russell M. Nelson, teasing us about this assignment,
noted that it was unusual to assign three Apostles to visit the area where they
had served as missionaries in their youth.”
2.
Quotes RMN
3.
Quotes RMN
again
4.
Quotes RMN
a third time
5.
“I am grateful that we will now hear from President Nelson. I
testify that President Nelson is the Lord’s prophet for our day. I love and
treasure the marvelous inspiration and guidance we receive through him. As an
Apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ, I bear my sure witness of the Savior’s
divinity and the reality of His Atonement in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.”
RMN edification and personal.
Speaker 8 – Russell Nelson – No edification of self or other
leaders.
Closing Prayer – “Grateful for living prophet seers and revelators.
Especially we’re grateful for president RMN”.

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